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Why Vaccines Will Never Be Mandatory

admin September 22, 2014

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Over the last few weeks, I’ve posted some new articles on vaccines.  This has led to a little backlash from people who believe that in encouraging parents to do research and make their own choices, that I am dangerous.  You see, some people still believe that vaccines are, or should be, fully mandatory.

By mandatory, they mean — you will get your child completely vaccinated on the CDC schedule, or face fines, being barred from public school, etc.  There’s no room for opting out of some, or choosing to delay.  You must follow exactly what the CDC says, including getting any and all new vaccines that are added to the schedule.

This is a completely ridiculous position.

The thing is, they keep harping on “herd immunity” and that your decision not to vaccinate could someday impact someone else.  (If they didn’t use this angle, and admitted that your decision mostly impacts you/your family, then no one would be all that upset about what anyone else chose.  They want peer pressure to try to force you into vaccination.)  But they act like vaccination — or the lack thereof — is some sort of special, magical circumstance that will have a strong impact on others, while nothing else will.

This just isn’t true.

Vaccines will never be mandatory.  Keep reading to find out why.

Does Vaccination Impact Others?

Yes.

Both vaccinating and not vaccinating could impact those around you.  The rotavirus vaccine, for example, often causes diarrhea.  Rotavirus is live, so the diarrhea contains the virus, which can shed and make other children ill.  This happens in daycare settings especially.  One study recommends that immunocompromised individuals stay away from babies who recently received rotavirus for the first 14 days after vaccination.  But how in the world is that possible?  Recently vaccinated babies will be going to grocery stores, church, etc. because their parents weren’t told there was a potential risk, and individuals can’t ask about the vaccination status of those babies….  (And if you, the parent, changed their diaper and didn’t wash your hands properly, you could spread it by touching things.)

On the other hand, the story that we’re often told is that an unvaccinated child might contract measles, or pertussis, and then spread it to a baby too young to be vaccinated, or an immunocompromised individual and kill them.  This is pure fiction.  It could happen, but it hasn’t.  There haven’t been any measles deaths in the U.S. in more than 10 years. (2014 data)

Realistically, the chances of someone coming across either a recently vaccinated individual, or an ill individual, and catching an illness about equally likely.  Which is to say, both are highly unlikely.  Both could happen.  

Often times, when someone does get sick, we don’t actually know for sure where it came from.  We don’t know who “spread” it or what their vaccination status was.  It’s often really difficult to pin down, especially if there’s an actual epidemic with hundreds or thousands of cases.  So it’s usually just speculation that it was caused by an unvaccinated person, or whatever the other explanation is.

Does It Even Matter?

No.

Honestly, it doesn’t.  It does not matter if you happen to spread an illness to another person.  (Well — it does.  But it doesn’t matter which illness it is.  And you should stay home if you know you’re sick to try to minimize the chances of spreading it.  But it can happen anyway, even if you take precautions, and in this case, when you did your best — it doesn’t matter.)

I’m not heartless.  It’s not that I don’t care about others.  (Although, yeah, I care about my own kids more.  That’s called “being a parent.”  Are you going to tell me that you love all kids as much as your own?)  Anyway, let me explain.

There are a thousand ways, every day, that our behavior could affect others.  Possibly in a really serious manner.  I highly doubt that anyone thinks about these things before they leave their house in the morning, though.  Let’s look at some of the ways.

Chemical Sensitivity

Some people are highly sensitive to chemicals, and breathing them in even briefly could cause the to struggle with breathing, have an asthma attack, or worse.  This includes chemicals like perfume or body spray, highly scented soaps or lotions, laundry detergent or fabric softener residue in clothing, or cigarette smoke.  Many people wear perfumes or lotions without thinking twice how it could impact others around them — even if they will be in enclosed spaces.  (It was actually when I got a headache from someone’s perfume in an enclosed space that I came up with the idea for this post.)

Allergies

Some people are extremely allergic to foods — usually nuts.  In these people, tiny traces of nuts can cause a full-blown anaphylactic reaction, which can cause death in as little as 20 minutes.  If you eat nuts and don’t brush your teeth and breath on someone, that could be enough.  If you don’t wash your hands after eating nuts and touch something that they touch, that could be enough.  And if you bring nut-based snacks with you (think: granola bars with nuts, Larabars, trail mix, nut butters) you might as well bring poison if you’re around someone with serious nut allergies.  And you don’t know which strangers might have a serious allergy.  

Going out in public with nuts with you or on your hands is arguably one of the most dangerous things you could do, especially with serious nut allergies on the rise.

Sniffles and More

A lot of people say they don’t have time to stay home when they are sick, or that it’s “not that bad” and go out while coughing, congested, or with other symptoms (a handful even go out while they have a fever, vomiting, or diarrhea — and not just to the doctor’s office).  This is very dangerous for people who are susceptible to illness, and yet people do it all the time.

There are lots more ways we can impact others.  People have other serious allergies besides nuts.  We could be distracted while driving — too tired, putting on make up, on a cell phone, drunk….  (Obviously the last is illegal, but the others usually aren’t.  Cell phones are illegal in some areas, but that doesn’t stop people from using them.)

How many people think, “I really shouldn’t make this phone call while driving, because if I were to pay less attention to the road, I could impact my fellow drivers?”  No, I’d venture to guess most don’t even consider the other drivers at all.

We Do What’s Right for Us

I’m not advocating being selfish.

The thing is, we all have so many things to think about when it comes to making decisions in our lives.  “How it might impact others” can’t and shouldn’t be at the top of the list, unless what you’re doing is extremely likely to have a serious impact on others.  i.e. you shouldn’t drive drunk, because the likelihood of you actually killing someone else is quite high, every single time you do it.

It would drive us crazy if we had to consider every little thing that might impact someone else before we left the house.

  • Did I have peanut butter for breakfast?
  • Did I wash sufficiently after?
  • Do my clothes smell like fabric softener?  Will I run into someone who is allergic to it?
  • Is my lotion or perfume going to bother anyone?
  • Should I use my cell phone while driving today, or will I get too distracted?

We just don’t think like that.  We think about what is the best for us.  Maybe peanut butter on toast is the healthiest quick breakfast we can manage.  Maybe we have to call the dentist to reschedule the appointment before we get to work (although I don’t recommend you use your cell phone while driving if you can avoid it).

Vaccination is not a magically different situation.

Vaccination is a medical decision.  It is one that comes with risks and benefits to the individual.  These risks are up to and including death.  We cannot mandate that individuals have to receive vaccinations for the benefit of others.  Not when the risk, however small, includes death.

We can’t erase the impact we might have on others, for good or for bad.  And we can’t single out any particular situation with a negligible risk — which is the case with vaccination vs. disease (no, you are not likely to die or be permanently disabled if you catch the measles) — and insist that other make decisions on our behalf.  We can’t.

I’m sure some people will call me selfish and mean for this stance, but frankly I’m not going to change it.  If you want to vaccinate or take whatever precautions you choose to protect yourself, I absolutely support that.  I think you should do that, if that is what is right for you.  But you don’t have the right to tell me I have to…for your benefit.

(And no.  I don’t believe you should vaccinate to protect my children.  I don’t care about “herd immunity” at all.  I don’t need you to protect them; I can protect them myself, in the ways that I choose.)

I’m not sure why this is so hard for some to understand.  We each do what is best for our own families.  That is all we can do.  And I promise that I’ll use any and all political connections I have (which are a lot at this point) to make sure that mandatory vaccination laws aren’t passed.  Let me be clear: I will fight with everything I have for the right of families to make their own choices.

As for the actual risk-benefit of vaccines vs. disease, that’s not clear cut either (meaning it’s not obvious that vaccination is much safer and better than illness), but that’s beyond the scope of this post.  Look for more information on that at the end of the week.

(Lest anyone try this out — this post wasn’t intended to be research-based or to convince anyone to vaccinate or not vaccinate.  It’s my opinion about the laws surrounding mandatory vaccination.  I have deliberately used very little evidence because I wasn’t addressing the issue of safety or efficacy.  I will address that later in the week, or you can refer to my previous posts on vaccination.  Please do not state that because this post contains no sources that I have done no research.  I’m not even going to publish those comments or argue with you about it; it’s a waste of my time.)

Do Vaccination Research — Vaccines Will Never Be Mandatory

I encourage everyone to do their own research.  Ask questions — literally, make a list of all the questions you have — and seek the answers.  Do not stop until you are satisfied.  Read through the CDC’s Pink Book.  Talk to your doctor.  Keep asking until you get answers.

If you decide to vaccinate, whether fully or partially, then we support you.

If you decide not to vaccinate, we support you.  There are plenty of other ways to protect your children.

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35 Comments

  1. LOVE this post!!! I’m sure there are some trolls getting a red butt about it somewhere. That means you are doing a great job. Keep up the great work!!!

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  2. “There haven’t been any measles deaths in the U.S. in more than 10 years.”

    That’s absolutely right. And the reason there haven’t been any deaths is because most people are vaccinated — which protects both them, and those who can’t (or won’t) be vaccinated. Vaccines are introduced. Incidence rates fall dramatically. I’m not trying to be sarcastic, or mean, but do you not honestly see the connection?

    Denying herd immunity is also simply baffling to me. If there is a risk to a situation, no matter how likely or not it is, decreasing the number of times you are in that situation reduces the likelihood that it will affect you. This isn’t medicine, it is MATH, and logic. Do you not believe in those, either?

    Think about any situation. Maybe it is crossing the street, or climbing a ladder, or eating a steak. Each time you are in the situation, there is a percentage chance of something going wrong — you could get hit by a car, or fall off the ladder, or choke on the steak. Just for the sake of argument, let’s say that percentage is 10%. If you are in the situation once, 90% of the time, you will be OK. If you are in it twice, 81% (90% x 90%) of the time, you will be OK. If you are in it three times, 72.9% (90% x 90% x 90%) of the time, you will be OK. If you are in it four times, 65.61% (90% x 90% x 90% x 90%) of the time, you will be OK.

    Do you see the pattern?

    Fewer people with measles means fewer opportunities to come in contact with someone who has measles — which means less chance you will contract it, whether or not you are vaccinated. That’s herd immunity. It really could not be any more straightforward.

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    • I’m pretty sure the writer meant that with all the cases of measles in the last 10 years, there were no deaths….meaning those who caught measles and had the illness didn’t die because measles is no where near as serious as it is hyped up to be in order to stir up fear. And as far as herd immunity goes…your example is fabulous and logical but oddly not reality. Children may be vaccinated at rather high rates in most of the US, but adults certainly aren’t and yet we are not over run by epidemics…occasional small out breaks but not like you’d think we’d see with our utter lack of herd immunity. And what about the flu shot? Almost 100% of most big hospitals are flu vaxed and yet many employees still get the flu amidst the protective herd and even patient rates of flu contraction remains the same…oh, right, the flu shot is bogus…and so is “herd immunity”.

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    • Except…. it’s only that straightforward if the vaccine actually works 100% of the time and the immunity never wears off (or everyone who is vaccinated is current on vaccines). Your herd immunity “calculations” don’t account for the fact that many of the people who become ill with “vaccine preventable” diseases are, in fact, vaccinated. Your simple multiplication of risk (exposure actually) doesn’t account for anything other than vaccine status too. Because we also know that exposure does NOT equal disease. For example, I was exposed to pertussis twice in one winter, am unvaccinated, and still did not contract it while several friends did…. many of them vaccinated… where does that fit into your equation?

      Perhaps you should read more of her posts on herd immunity and the science of vaccines to get a better understanding of what she “believes.”

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    • Daniel, your example of the percentages doesn’t make sense. If I have a 10% chance of falling off a ladder, then it is 10% EACH time. It doesn’t get added together. Otherwise, by the 10th time, I have a 100% chance of falling off??

      A baby has a 50% chance of being a boy or girl. These chances don’t change based on the number of children a mother has. Even if she has 6 sons, her next pregnancy still has 50/50 chance of being a boy or girl.

      Surely you understand why your ‘pattern’ doesn’t make sense?

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      • Actually, as a mathematican myself, the ladder calculation is correct, if the risk of falling off a ladder is 10% each time you get on a ladder, and you get on one 10 times, (90%)^10 chance of not falling off over 10 times, or 34.8% chance of safety. (the probablilites multiply each exposure)
        The difference is that the probablilty you will catch a disease does not follow simple statistics as above. It will depend on how much immunity you have to that disease, how strong your immune system is, how much contact you have with the sick person, etc.
        Suppose 1% off the population caught a disease this year, then your chance of being sick with that disease this year is somewhere around 1% (probably a lower number if you have a strong immune system or have acquired immunity, and likely a higher number if your immune system has been compromised). The 1% of population per year already takes into account that you may be re-exposed to the disease during the year

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    • Daniel, I agree with you that the measles vaccine prevents measles. And the lower incident of measles is part of reason the US has gone 10 years without a measles death. But the other reason we haven’t had a measles death in ten years is because measles is such a mild illness.
      I still won’t give my kids any vaccines. When I was in kindergarten, I missed a week of school from chicken pox., and i missed another week of school from a reaction to the DTP. So, I missed one week from getting a vaccine, and one week from not getting a vaccine.

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    • Daniel- you are obviously not a statistician. What you are saying makes no sense. There are things called infectious doses, rates etc- things completely not taken into account by your extremely rudimentary attempt at a statistic of I’m not even sure what. And you should educate yourself on herd immunity before you attempt to educate others. Herd immunity will never and can never refer to anything but lifelong immunity acquired through actually contracting a disease. Also when you inject a vaccination, you bypass the bodies nature immune response because most diseases aren’t acquired by injection into the bloodstream directly. So your body does not mount the proper antibodies and response that it would through natural infection- ingestion, inhalation, or through the eyes or break in the skin. This results in an incomplete immune reaction that can leave you less likely to respond well to disease. Look at how rates of death in children under 5 rose exponentially the year after it was recommended they receive the flu shot and that rate has continued since to be elevated- children who are vaccinated are more likely to die from the flu! So tell me again how vaccines are saving lives? I have yet to see any proof. And by the way, epidemiology refutes that vaccines has ever stemmed an epidemic, pandemic. All diseases have been on the decline, naturally, by the time the vaccine was introduced.

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    • only 10 percent of the entire population received the measles vaccine……check it out…..measles vaccine was mostly a failure in the number who bought into it…

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    • There hasn’t been any measles deaths in the last 10 years because measles were 99.4% abated before the lMV went into production in 1967-68. The Measles Graph
      http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih9/bioethics/guide/pdf/Master_2-5.pdf.

      The Oxford Journal of Infectious Disease also pointed out that measles-related deaths were on the decline before the vaccine was available: By the late 1950s, even before the introduction of measles vaccine, measles-related deaths and case fatality rates in the United States had decreased markedly, presumably as a result of improvement in health care and nutrition. From 1956 to 1960, an average of 450 measles-related deaths were reported each year (∼1 death/ 1000 reported cases), compared with an average of 5300 measles-related deaths during 1912–1916 (26 deaths/ 1000 reported cases).

      *EPIDEMIOLOGIC BASIS FOR ERADICATION OF MEASLES IN 1967: David J. Sencer, M.D. H. Bruce Dull, M.D. Alexander D. Langmuir, M.D.
      The authors are from the Public Health Services National Communicable Disease Center, Atlanta, Ga. Dr. Sencer is chief and Dr. Dull is assistant chief of the Center. Dr. Langmuir is chief of the Epidemiology Program. This paper was presented at the Ameriean Public Health Associations meeting in San Francisco, November 1, 1966.

      With the isolation of the measles virus and the development and extensive field testing of several potent and effective vaccines, the tools are at hand to eradicate the infection. With the general application of these tools during the coming months, eradication can be achieved in this country in the year 1967.
      This was based on ONE (1) shot given. Didn’t work so another was added, than another, and another now there is an adult MMR scheduled shot. This paper is available online. Health officials have kept increasing and increasing the level at which vaccine uptake is necessary to eradicate measles. Today it is 95%. They have increased the number of times children have to be vaccinated. It was just one shot of measles vaccine (1967) and then one of MMR. Now it is two shots and teenagers and adults are also told they can be vaccinated with the MMR at any time they like.

      *NY Measles outbreak: 26 cases total. 14 adults ad 12 children. Patient Zero is a 22 year old VACCINATED young lady who contracted measles in 2011. MSM articles spins this article the best they can for the critically thinking challenged. They don’t state the vaccination status of the adults but “alternative” sources say they were all vaccinated at least once. The children, 4 were too young to get the MMR, 6 were vaccinated and 2 unvaccinated. What does the MSM do? Focus on the 2 unvaccinated despite the fact that Patient Zero is VACCINATED. Statically that means at least 90% were vaccinated. Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011 *http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/9/1205

      *Wales Measles Outbreak 2012-13: May 2nd confirmed cases for Wales was 370. The original numbers reported was: 1,170 notified. That is a percentage rate of over-diagnosis and over-notification of 3774% or just 0.027 of notified cases were actually measles – and it is medical professionals who do the diagnosing and notifying. Kind of knocks your faith in the ability of doctors to diagnose a basic childhood illness. 90-95 per cent of the people who contracted measles were vaccinated.

      There are hundreds of these reportings on Pubmed, you just need to know what to look for. Why are these outbreaks occurring in highly vaccinated populations? The VACCINATED are infecting the VACCINATED AND UNVACCINATED. That’s right because LIVE VIRUS VACCINES SHED. There is no SMART VIRUS that stays in the boundaries of a specific body. It’s a live virus and it sheds/spreads just like in nature.
      You will never look at vaccinated children the same!- Shedding Viruses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKSeiAs_A4w. Cited with government studies.
      Many of the vaccine vial inserts state there is a level of transmission that occurs. Recently the vaccine manufactures have been eliminating incriminating statements from the inserts but you can still find earlier version on wayback engines or some sites such as WHALE.

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    • But Kate is right. No one has do something like vaccination that has killed or disabled so many. Yes, if measles comes back, and it will, there will be more deaths, but there won’t be many in a developed country. My daughter is autistic from a vaccine, while I have MS. I said no to the MMR when she was little, because I had measles and rubella as a child, and know that measles, mumps, and rubella are very rarely dangerous. I know how to nurse these diseases, and am not afraid of them. They are extremely good for training the immune system to be strong and competent, instead of screwing it up with neurological and autoimmune disease caused by vaccines. I am like Kate. I don’t care AT ALL about herd immunity. It would be good for the herd to catch measles and all the other usually mild, formerly universal childhood diseases. Parents of young newborns must be taught that it is their responsibility to keep the babies at home and be aware of who they are exposed to. In 1960, there were four million cases of measles a year in the US, with an average of 450 deaths. Dr. Langmuir said in 1962 that the fatality rate from measles was less than one per ten thousand cases in children over three, it was four per ten thousand in babies up to one, but babies born to women who had had measles themselves were protected by placental immunity and breast feeding.
      Measles is not dangerous to healthy, well-nourished children who are well-nursed, kept in bed well-hydrated, get NO Tylenol or other fever reducers, maybe get vitamin A in two appropriate doses, and stay at home for three weeks after the rash appears, because measles depresses the immune system for that long, and it is the new infections which start during that time which are the major causes of problems.

      I hope my daughter may still have the opportunity to get measles and mumps before she is grown, and I am not grateful at all to those who have so far deprived her of this boon to her longterm health.

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  3. Another point you should mention is if a person is vaccinated, they are supposed to be protected… so why would it matter if their neighbor, or the guy sitting next to them in church, or handing them money at check out, was not vaccinated?? That just says you dont trust the vaccine chemical shit storm you had injected into your body…. seriously, I dont get that.

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  4. “If you want to vaccinate or take whatever precautions you choose to protect yourself, I absolutely support that. I think you should do that, if that is what is right for you. But you don’t have the right to tell me I have to…for your benefit.”

    In my opinion, this is what it all comes down to. Whether or not to vaccinate is a very personal decision, one that every parent has a right and a responsibility to fully research before making. There are risks and benefits either way, in my opinion, and you owe it to your children to understand the issue before making the decision. But it is a decision you should make only with your children in mind; do what is best for your children and your family. Don’t make a decision like this based on the idea of benefiting others. Medical decisions should never be made simply because they are perceived as being beneficial to the community as a whole, not if there is risk for the individual receiving the treatment.

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  5. I had the measles when I was a kid. Everyone did. We stayed home and got over it. When my uncle’s surgeon, a man in his forties with young children to raise, lost the use of his hands after getting the flu vaccine, I really started to question the current “wisdom” about vaccines. We should all be free to make our own decisions.

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    • I got the flu vaccine when I was 35, and my wife left me the following year. “Infidelity,” she said. More like vaccine injury!

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      • Nice one Paul, way to insult someone with a vaccine injury. Would you say the same about someone who suffered permanent damage after an infection? No? So why do you feel it’s ok to behave in such an arrogant and obnoxious way regarding those who suffer permanent damage via other means? You’re not convincing anyone being so rude, you’re turning people off.

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      • She left you because you’re the kind of a-hole that would go on the internet and spit in the faces of thousands of people whose kids have been injured or killed from this poison you celebrate.

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  6. Totally and 100% agree… with everything. Especially the bit about staying home when you are sick. I think vaccines provide a false sense of protection… everyone thinks they are safe because of their precious vaccination. So they go out and make other people sick. THEY are the ones being irresponsible. Not me (who doesn’t vaccinate) but also does not leave the house if any of us are ill (which is RARE by the way).

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  7. I think this was a great article – it made a lot of common sense. I think those “scare tactics” they try and force on us are crazy. However, I am looking for a one-two sentence reply that we can give to people when they try to make us feel guilty. It’s always hard to condense these things down. Any suggestions?

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  8. Excellent article. Thankyou for writing it.

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  9. I absolutely love what you wrote, it makes perfect sense, and I truly couldn’t agree more. I didn’t know the dangers until 6 months ago, it never felt right to me in the first place. My intuition was screaming no. But like most parents, you feel bullied into vaccines, especially by doctors. What people don’t realize, is doctors get paid for doing the vaccines, its a seperate charge to the insurance company. More money, my ped for my son, looked shocked, and a bit nervous when i asked for the leaflet on the vaccines she had already given my son. What I read was horrifying, what is even more disturbing is she had no idea about the CDC news on the dangers, or maybe she was just playing dumb, either way its disturbing. Doctors are suppose to take an oath thall shall harm none…. Apparently only a selective few still practice it.

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  10. I read that in CT and NJ the flu shot was going to be mandatory in childcares and schools. True? How?

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  11. Couldn’t agree more! My responsibility is solely to my children and I for one will not risk their health no matter how “small” the risk to protect anyone else. I work diligently everyday to feed them nutritionally dense foods so that their body’s are capable of fighting off disease and I have absolute no obligation to “protect” the overweight, asthmatic kid who eats Mcdonalds and Mac n cheese everyday because their parents are too ignorant to make the connection between food, health and the ability to fight off disease.

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  12. I selectively vaccinate my children, so I’m with you on informed choice. I wonder though about your selection of measles as your example rather than Pertussis. Unfortunately Pertusis deaths have occurred recently, so pro-vac people will think of that and disregard you.

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  13. thank you so much…I feel the same & hope you are right!!

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  14. Never mandatory is a strong statement, while i am strickly Antivax’er i realize that our politicians are already bought and paid for. I figure the magic # is 10%, once we (the US) nears that number big pharma will go into panic.

    Now understand this, forcible vaccinating children against the parents wishes essentially negates the most treasured of all civil liberties, freedom of religion. Americans have allowed a slow and gradual erosion of many of our rights but the freedom to practice whatever form of worship is a founding pillar of our republic.

    Big pharma already gave this a trial run w/gardasil down in texas and we all see how that worked out but rest assured, if we as a nation start appoarching that 10% figure you”ll see big pharma try it again but with the leasons they learned down in Texas applied to the effort.

    The truth is spreading, and when enough eyes are open there will be a fight to forcibly impose the lie…be ready!!

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  15. This makes such a good point. I’ve yet to meet someone who could give me a good reason as to why my children are responsible for someone else’s health. I would never EVER expect someone else’s child to be subjected to a medical procedure that comes with a risk (like all medical procedures) just for my benefit.

    I do understand that there are immune-compromised individuals and young babies in this world, but THEY are responsible for their health. Not me or my children. My mother is on immune suppressing drugs for an auto-immune disease and therefor has compromised immunity. However, she would NEVER expect someone ELSE (let alone a child) to submit to multiple shots within a 2 year time-frame to protect HER. She takes her own precautions and is in charge of her own health, as should everyone else in her position.

    If you have a young baby and you are worried about them being exposed to germs, then don’t expose them. Keep them away from large crowds. Breastfeed them often and ask people to wash hands. Don’t got to parks or crowded malls. If you are immune-compromised and are very concerned about being exposed, then take your own precautions and don’t expose yourself. But don’t expect everyone that you come in contact with to submit to a medical procedure to protect you. That is utterly selfish.

    And the more important question to ask is this– what happens when a child DOES get vaccinated for “the Greater Good” and is injured? (Because it DOES happen. Anyone who says it doesn’t is lying.) Do they get a medal and a certificate for their sacrifice? Are they regarded as heroes, lauded and praised and held in high esteem in society? Are they recognized AT ALL? The answer would be a resounding NO!

    VAccine-injured children are thrown on the trash heap of “inconvenient truths”, their existence barely even acknowledged. Their parents are called “dangerous” and “anti-vax nut-jobs” when they try to tell their story. They find that their pediatricians (the ones who told them the vaccines were safe and effective) don’t know how to treat them and minimize their disabilities…while also being certain to maintain that it WASN’T the vaccine that injured their child…because vaccines are safe and effective….and adverse reactions are VEERRRRYYYYYY RAAAAARRRRRREEEEEE. And if you do actually make it on national TV to tell your sad story, you can expect a VENOMOUS reception as every health official in the country boos you off the stage and calls for a public flogging of the TV host who DARED to allow you to speak (See Katie Couric and her episode regarding the HPV vaccine).

    With that reality, WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT THEIR CHILD TO BE THAT KIND OF MARTYR?!?!? The vaccine-injured are treated worse than those who choose not to vaccinate, their existence vehemently minimized. So, forget the inherent dangers of vaccines, you would be CRAZY to sign your children up for that sort of treatment by society.|

    Bottom line—take care of yourself. Everyone should be in charge of their own health. Expecting others (especially young children) to take medical risks for you is completely and utterly selfish.

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  16. So well said! It is every parents’ responsibility to ensure and maintain their children’s health. I certainly am not going to further injure my children, just so mothers can feel “safe” taking their newborn babies out shopping or put them in daycare. If babies are too young and are at greater risk of dying if they did get whooping cough, then KEEP YOUR BABY SAFE AT HOME UNTIL THEY ARE OLD ENOUGH to survive a disease!! It is our responsibility, not everyone else’s. I had a friend who is Greek,who practised the old tradition (which probably started long before vaccines were introduced, lowering a new baby’s immune system), which was to not take a newborn out in public, for the first 40 days of its life. Makes sense! I think even longer would be sensible, especially these days!
    Vaccine-preventable” diseases are not the only, or even major cause of child-deaths in developed countries. Thank you again for this post. It is very timely for me, and I’m sure many others too. Thank you too for pointing out the reality of many other dangers that we mindlessly expose others too, especially the nut allergies. In Australia, here about 12 years ago, a local high school student, died from anaphylaxis suddenly, after consuming a spoonful of peanut butter. He died before the ambulance got there. He knew he was allergic, but had it on a camp. He did not know how serious his allergy was.

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  17. Fantastic article!!!! It’s exactly what I tell people. Thank you for posting it!

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  18. Hi Kate, Thank you for your wonderful blog and your support in the choice of declining vaccinations. My friends and I are Homeopaths and believe that it is really vital that vaccines be a choice and not be made mandatory. There is a movement at the moment to try to make vaccines mandatory and I’d like to share the following link with the National Health Freedom Action for you and your readers to sign the petitions to uphold the right to decline vaccines:
    http://www.nationalhealthfreedom.org/nhfa/Alerts/VaxAlert_021115.html
    Many thanks for your inspiring blog, Karine

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  19. Perhaps it WON’T be mandatory, but the ways they will get you will be SO UNDERHANDED, SUCH as what I witnessed recently upon my own entrance int the hospital in NY at SUNY Downstate. I filled out the one page consent form (Other hospitals are much longer or are under electronic transfer, you get to sign a black line on a credit card like machine while the desk clerk EXPLAINS to you what you are signing for!)

    IT stated:
    By signing the is form, I consent to routine medical and dental procedures for diagnosis and treatment, including physical examination, laboratory testing, cardiac monitoring, x-rays, drawing blood,insertion of intravenous lines, lumbar puncture, the administration of medications to include **vaccines as deemed necessary. ** OK FIRST OF ALL WHO IS DEEMING ANY VACCINES NECESSARY?! YOU HAVE NO CLUE AS YET TO MY HYPOGAMMAGLOBULINEMIA, SO I TOOK THE NICE PEN AND SLASHED THROUGH THE WORD VACCINES AND WROTE IN, “I REFUSE ALL VACCINES AND IMMUNIZATIONS, WHETHER INJECTED, MIST TYPES, ETC”

    I am waiting to see if they pick up on that I changed it, the last hospital I did this at CHANGED MY DIAGNOSIS! YUP, all of a sudden I NO LONGER NEEDED ANY surgery to fix my bowel deformity or bladder prolapse and after two surgeries for prolapsed bowel and FINALLY getting to the “real S*it” pardon the pun…I “Get CANNED!”

    Oh well, you weren’t worth what I thought you were Dr…but #TRUTH will come out eventually!
    PS: Harmed via three vaccines* as an adult and most likely as a child, my Mom told me of my febrile seizures as an infant where a bottle would come up as soon as I developed a fever, in SOLID RUBBERY FORM! *Rubella Tetanus and Pneumonia .

    I NEVER had pneumonia as a kid (I am one of seven in my family, 4 boys 3 girls) yet as an adult I have had pneumonia TWELVE times, hospitalized three times in 2012 (FIVE days each time) and during thyroid cancer and left stlyoid removal in 2014 having a chest xray being over 50 it showed yet again , PNEUMONIA! This time Klebsiella type as well! At one of the ER visits where I spent five days in the hospital for an angiography induced stroke suffering left sided stroke resulting in right sided blindness, I was asked if I would ALLOW AN IMPLANT to be inserted for a heart monitor type for a study for a period of over one year, UH I am here for a stroke induced from having a camera threaded through my arteries and YOU WANT TO FURTHER PROD MY ALREADY SUFFERING BODY MORE WITH A FOREIGN OBJECT BIGGER THAN THE PLAQUE WHICH HAS ALREADY MADE IT THROUGH TO MY FINGER AND OUT?! UHG NO THANKS! and they thought I got my finger stuck in some hinge on the bed…since when are hinges patient accessible?! or was I crawling around on the floor, whcih story woudl look better in a patient report?! OH the stories I can tell you of care in hospitals in the USA…I feel REALLY BADLY for those in other countries and those who cannot speak for themselves!! NO VACCINES EVER AGAIN!

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  20. What can be done in California where vaccines are now mandatory in order to attend school (public OR private)? Only exemption allowed now is “medical exemption.” Is that hard to get?

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  21. I have to politely disagree with you, Kate. As much as I wish I could agree and believe that vaccinations would never be made mandatory… This last year saw my home state of CA require ALL CHILDREN in any publicly funded school be required to meet a STATE mandated vaccination schedule. There’s one for kindergarten entry and one for 7th grade entry. Doctor’s notes aren’t sufficient excuses for students to remain unvaccinated. Students on delayed schedules are followed and tracked by the schools and county health officials. The only exemption is for home- schooled children on PRIVATE curriculums- not through state or state- funded curriculums. I’m an RN who works in a government funded clinic so I have participated in scrubbing charts for parents to weed out what’s recommended by the CDC versus what’s required by the state- and there is a major difference (state requirements are for much less vaccinations). This is what’s happening now in California.

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